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Eye Watering - any advice please

Postby Sarah » Fri Apr 05, 2013 7:21 pm

Remmy has had a watery eye for a little while. She had antibiotic drops but it didn't clear it up. It does not occur all the time, but every few days. If she had an allergy I would assume it would affect both eyes.

Remmy also has had a dead canine tooth for about 3 years (on the same side as the watery eye). This hasn't appeared to cause her any problem and the vet previously advised to leave it alone. She has no problem eating and there is no swelling on her face.

I took her back to the vets today about her eye and saw the vet that I don't like very much. I never feel he gives you much time to discuss anything. :confusion-shrug: He was the vet we dealt with when Remmy had to be re-spayed following coming into season when she had been spayed by them previously. :angry-cussing: We felt he didn't handle it very well at all and was very offhand with us. Lacking in good communication skills I think!!

I mentioned the tooth to him today as I wondered if there could be any connection between the watery eye and the canine tooth. He thought it could be possible (although it was my suggestion initially and not his). He said to book her in to have it removed under GA. He didn't suggest an X-ray either.

I don't want to needlessly put her through a GA if the tooth is not causing the eye problem. I wondered if anyone had any experience of this or had heard it could happen. I have googled but have not found anything relevant. Should I get a second opinion?
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Re: Eye Watering - any advice please

Postby patchnmike » Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:30 pm

oh my gosh...I'd be looking for a new vet about now!!! But that aside...it is spring and could still be an allergy. Don't do anything drastic unless someone can come up with some very good reasons. Sorry you are having this worry.
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Re: Eye Watering - any advice please

Postby whipgrace6 » Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:44 pm

I think I'd get a second opinion, too. Alf has one eye that waters, and sometimes it has a little matter in it in the mornings, too. His other eye is fine. I think it is an allergy to grass or tree pollens. He also rubs his face on the carpet, so I use this eye drop for itchy eyes, and it clears it up temporarily for a few days.

I hope you are able to figure out Remmy's problem, and that she doesn't have to have her tooth removed.
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Re: Eye Watering - any advice please

Postby zepherdude » Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:25 pm

ya i would get a second oppinion also.but then i'm not the kind of person thats going to let someone i'm paying to care for my loved one's (animals or human)get away with an attatude,i have jumped down the troughts of several people i have payed for a service when i didnt get what i payed for,it's not my first responce but if i have to i do it to protect my family.
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Re: Eye Watering - any advice please

Postby 3whippetmadness » Sat Apr 06, 2013 1:02 am

Sarah,

A watering eye can be a sign of an abcess in the roots. I would opt for a dental x-ray. Because people don't want to pay for them (at least here in the US), if you are not in a big town, you will have to travel and its not cheap. For me, my Cassi has one dying and is showing no symptoms so we just watch it and monitor her. But the eye-watering is one of the symptoms of an infection because of a dying tooth, yes it is. I would be really considering it hard especially since it is on the same side as the tooth. I would let it go for a little while and see how constant a problem it is if there is a possiblity it is an allergy. I think its crazy our canines don't get dental x-rays (at least in the smaller practices) as routine, ESPECIALLY if there is a tooth dying.

My vet said it could take 5 years to completely die but Cassi has been probed regularly with no sign of pain, eats great, more problems with keeping weight on her than her losing weight. So I, too, am in a wait and watch mode. My vet doesn't like to extract until they are completely dead if she doesn't have to as she did break a dog's jaw doing it while it was still strongly entrenched in there. However, there are specialists that deal with all types so they have dealt with just about everything. Again, very expensive.

I agree with the others. If you know in your gut that this vet just doesn't sit well with you, doesn't meet your standards, you need to look elsewhere. Or you can try to get in his face a little and let him know you expect him to "up his game". I do not suggest this unless you have few or no other options around you. It can be done but it is very difficult on you if you are by nature non-confrontational.

Well, I feel for you Sarah and hope you can get to the bottom of the tearing. I sincerely hope it is not from the tooth but if it is, it is an external warning to get that dead matter out of Remmy and get those roots cleaned out good. Look up info on tooth extraction so you are familiar with the different procedures. It is not only important to get the tooth completely out but the roots too. Roots left in will either renew or keep the infection going.

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Re: Eye Watering - any advice please

Postby Patience » Sat Apr 06, 2013 4:26 pm

Mama Pajama had a watery eye and it was an indolent ulcer. Did they put numbing drops in the eye and examine it?

I am not big on second guessing veterinarians. But, what I will say is that if I didn't have 100% confidence in my vet, meaning that if I didn't TRUST them 100%, I personally would find another vet. That doesn't mean I expect them to have magical powers or be right 100% of the time, they're human. BUT, I want to know that they listen to me, and that they are competent. Having a bitch come in season after she was spayed? I would have a hard time trusting after that.

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Re: Eye Watering - any advice please

Postby Sarah » Sat Apr 06, 2013 5:47 pm

Patience wrote:Mama Pajama had a watery eye and it was an indolent ulcer. Did they put numbing drops in the eye and examine it?

I am not big on second guessing veterinarians. But, what I will say is that if I didn't have 100% confidence in my vet, meaning that if I didn't TRUST them 100%, I personally would find another vet. That doesn't mean I expect them to have magical powers or be right 100% of the time, they're human. BUT, I want to know that they listen to me, and that they are competent. Having a bitch come in season after she was spayed? I would have a hard time trusting after that.

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No, they didn't put numbing drops in her eye, nor did they take a really close look to check for an ingrowing eyelash etc, which I would have thought should have been done. Also I feel an X-Ray of her tooth should have been suggested before wading in and immediately removing it.

I accept that the vets are human and can make mistakes and I don't expect them to always get it right. I think it is as you say - you need to feel that they are listening to you and you have confidence in them. When Remmy had to be re-spayed I realised it was a rare occurrence (a very small piece of ovarian tissue had been left behind) - it was his attitude at the time that annoyed me. :confusion-scratchheadblue:

Many thanks to everyone for your helpful replies.

I think I will take her back and see another vet at the practice, and if not satisfied will have to look for another vet surgery.
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Re: Eye Watering - any advice please

Postby Sarah » Sat Apr 06, 2013 5:51 pm

3whippetmadness wrote:Sarah,

A watering eye can be a sign of an abcess in the roots. I would opt for a dental x-ray. Because people don't want to pay for them (at least here in the US), if you are not in a big town, you will have to travel and its not cheap. For me, my Cassi has one dying and is showing no symptoms so we just watch it and monitor her. But the eye-watering is one of the symptoms of an infection because of a dying tooth, yes it is. I would be really considering it hard especially since it is on the same side as the tooth. I would let it go for a little while and see how constant a problem it is if there is a possiblity it is an allergy. I think its crazy our canines don't get dental x-rays (at least in the smaller practices) as routine, ESPECIALLY if there is a tooth dying.

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Many thanks Dawn - I wanted to know if anyone had heard of, or had experience of, a tooth causing the eye problem, so at least I now know it is a possibility.
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