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Postby JudeBl » Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:35 pm

Hi we have just brought home our beautiful boy Seamus 2years old yesterday. He is quite obviously stressed.And we have never experienced this situation either.

He comes from a breeder so I get the impression he is used to living outside the house. He stands halfway inside/outside our door to the balcony, not relaxing quite. (He eats fine and walks well most places...we have a lot of forest and after encouragement and "lifting into some places he has enjoyed walking there).) He will now allow us to stroke him and reassure him. But he is clearly unsure how things work now. He has defecated (once) and peed inside without indicating he needs to go out. (we just ignore and spray enzyme and toilet him morning after waking, after meals and at night then we reward him at the time too.

We would love to have him as an inside dog, he has a bed and blankets and we have a coat from his former home which we will let smell up everything before we wash it.

We are of the thoughts to just bond with him via food, rewards, walking and stroking him without chasing him around. He responds well to my clear unworried voice and comes to stand for a little while then returns to the doorway.

Any suggestions please? or can you confirm our approach. The breeder says he is a good boy and the way to his heart is through food and toys.

thank you so much for your assistance. I can see this site is invaluable.

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Re: new adult rehomed new parents

Postby JudeBl » Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:22 am

UPDATE: Seamus 2 years old

4 days later we have an inside dog! who absolutely adores the forest and outdoors. ..such a lovely lovely well behaved boy.

Unfortunately he is an extremely nervous dog in any unfamiliar situation: going round a "different way" to the bedroom, new people, new places, visitors, stairs (in the house or otherwise), and is unable to be taken anywhere else (brilliant in the car mind) without weeing and defecating in fear when he gets there.

I feel like he hasn't been socialised at all. He hated us having visitors yesterday .Then we had our worker here today with his little dog who was so happy to see our boy but it just frightened Seamus too much. Until I released him from the lead and had them both outside...then our boy was full of confidence , wouldn't play but was calm and basically indifferent.

Is this common with breeder dogs?

I have been able to teach him to use small sets of stairs now but I can see this is going to take quite a lot and length of time which is fine but it's the lack of experience I am worried about..

I read Ceasar Milan and he says "exercise, discipline and then affection"...we didn't buy Seamus for exercise as we were told he was a "couch potato"

do you have experiences with these situations?
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Re: new adult rehomed new parents

Postby PAWhippets » Wed Dec 19, 2018 1:07 pm

Welcome! Seamus sounds like a sweet boy who unfortunately, as you say, was not socialized during the most important period for that to happen, while he was growing up. It sounds like you have made great progress with him despite his challenges! We once had a girl who had grown up in a rather similar situation, and while she became an adored pet, she was never "normal" with other dogs or new situations.

To answer your question about breeders - dogs that come from good breeders are not like that at all. Good, responsible breeders take great efforts to socialize their puppies and expose them to all sorts of experiences and situations while they are still very young, so they learn to take it in stride. But unfortunately, not all breeders are good or responsible :cry:

Oh, and please do not take advice from Cesar Millan. He is, in a word, awful. There are many more positive trainers out there.

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Re: new adult rehomed new parents

Postby chelynnah » Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:09 pm

Welcome to the forum. Lois said everything I would have. No, a good breeder would have socialised him better. But it seems your patience is paying off.

And never listen to Caesar Milan, especially with whippets. It might do you well once he’s settled to find a training class based on positive reinforcement. This may help him with socialisationan and with bonding with you.

In the meantime have a look on YouTube for Susan Garrett and Karen Pryor and flicker training videos.

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Re: new adult rehomed new parents

Postby JudeBl » Sat Dec 22, 2018 6:42 am

Thank you for your reassuring responses.

We have been using positive reinforcement and lots of love and pats and he has come a long way. He is a really smart responsive boy. He must have been on the leash a lot when at show we think so we find it easier to teach him new things while leashed as he seems more comfortable with that. At home unleashed he is astounding...he will explore all around where we are and return willingly. He has a funny way of walking away from requests and then returning, sometimes a few times and then will do what we are asking. Not the steep stairs yet down to our lower floor in the house but it's only early days. Treats are not a prime motivator, but they do help along with cuddles, pats and positive voice tones.
We have had to introduce him to quite a number of new things this week such as walking into a building with a lot of people there , walking through town, meeting neighbour dogs when visitors arrived 3 times this week (unheard of previously). And we had him in harness on the leash and close to our bodies, he responded so well. A little boy with a disability patted him for a while (so gently) and Seamus was so calm with him. Dogs came up to him in the street and he was curious...if the other dog is too boisterous Seamus pulls away in himself but no strong reactions.

I think we have got a winner!!!

a most loving and intelligent boy.

Thank you again for the references..we can use those!
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Re: new adult rehomed new parents

Postby GrandmaB » Sun Dec 23, 2018 9:55 pm

And it sounds like your boy has a winner as well. Your patience will be well rewarded and thanks for the great update.
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Re: new adult rehomed new parents

Postby JudeBl » Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:44 am

update

now about a month later we have a most amazing whippet loving creature

he is such an astounding intelligent young thing...loves the bush here (our land)and wanders off for little bits then pops back to check we're here...in New Zealand there are no snakes or dangerous animals,
he gradually overcomes each obstacle of his fears with patience and gentle encouragement and leaving things until he gets up enough interest and courage (treats done work...he's too smart)

makes us laugh so much each day...wakes up with an enthusiastic smile

Is interesting in the face of other dogs...in fact seems to have a calming influence on them and wins them over almost by indifference and lack of aggression..until he can get them to chase him!! hahaha

he lets us know if there's strangers and recognises particular individual car sounds...

so curious about everything ...doesn't know how to play with humans but is adorably happy just having the biggest sprints and playing chase me with other visiting dogs...

he is so derpy and silly and kisses and pushes his head against us for a pat

couldn't be happier really...all of us
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Re: new adult rehomed new parents

Postby MarciaInNM » Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:22 pm

I'm glad to hear that your work with him had such great results and he has settled in so well. Whippets are wonderful. :romance-inlove:
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Re: new adult rehomed new parents

Postby JudeBl » Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:31 pm

thank you @MarciaInNM and @GrandmaB ...it's easy to be loving to dogs isn't it...that's what they are here for inmho
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Re: new adult rehomed new parents

Postby PAWhippets » Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:31 pm

What a great update! So happy to hear :D

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Re: new adult rehomed new parents

Postby Muppy » Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:36 am

Gosh, how wonderful to read this and hear how your lovely boy is developing! He has fallen on his feet with you and you are obviously doing a fab job. In my experience dogs feel safer on the lead as it’s a direct link to familiarity and security so that may be why he responded best to the new situations when leashed.
He sounds very intelligent and responsive- I don’t know much about Caesar Milan but I have trained our whippets to respond to a very soft tone of voice and also to small gestures (Wait, sit, in your bed, go left/right etc) so that I don’t have to raise my voice. They are very sensitive and intuitive and really want to please, most of the time!
Good luck with him and please keep us posted- what a great story yours is to read!
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Re: new adult rehomed new parents

Postby chelynnah » Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:00 pm

JudeBl wrote:update

now about a month later we have a most amazing whippet loving creature

he is such an astounding intelligent young thing...loves the bush here (our land)and wanders off for little bits then pops back to check we're here...in New Zealand there are no snakes or dangerous animals,
he gradually overcomes each obstacle of his fears with patience and gentle encouragement and leaving things until he gets up enough interest and courage (treats done work...he's too smart)

makes us laugh so much each day...wakes up with an enthusiastic smile

Is interesting in the face of other dogs...in fact seems to have a calming influence on them and wins them over almost by indifference and lack of aggression..until he can get them to chase him!! hahaha

he lets us know if there's strangers and recognises particular individual car sounds...

so curious about everything ...doesn't know how to play with humans but is adorably happy just having the biggest sprints and playing chase me with other visiting dogs...

he is so derpy and silly and kisses and pushes his head against us for a pat

couldn't be happier really...all of us


What a fabulous update!! It's so exciting to see them come into themselves. Thank you for giving him the patience and time he needs to truly become himself, and to be comfortable showing himself around you. This is excellent progress in a relatively short time (though I know to you it may feel like ages).

Congrats on your happy silly boy :romance-inlove:
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Re: new adult rehomed new parents

Postby JudeBl » Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:25 am

thank you all so much for your encouragement. I haven't had a dog since I was a child so it's all learning for me.

Seamus continues to delight us. He is so interesting to watch how he learns and adjusts. Colin, the man next door (up the next property) and Anne, his wife were our first visitors when Seamus came home to live with us. At that time Seamus did not respond overly well, pooed on the floor and kept away pacing.

Since then whenever Colin visits Seamus barks and sometimes growls which was a bit disconcerting. Then we visited Colin and Anne a few days ago and Seamus was allowed inside. He wasn't perturbed and wandered around a while, found where the large dog food bags were stored heheh and eventually walked over to let Colin pat him. Surprise!

He seems to always make progress given time for him to figure it out.

And you can see him figuring it out. Asked to do something he feels unsure of he circles to it and away and back again clearly investigating and making up his mind. Then another day it seems to have sunk in, been made to feel familiar and he just does it.I find it fascinating.

Yesterday our farm worker came to do his weekly work with his little dog Max. This is the 4th week they have been since Seamus has arrived. Seamus recognised the car, went to welcome them with his tail wagging, let the worker pat him and wagged his tail deliriously to see Max and then they were playing for the whole day running like crazy through the forest chasing and then stopping and positioning them selves in that way dogs do to provoke each other!! Then treats...dogs are so funny with food around other dogs aren't they!!!! and sleep for both ..just delightful for me to see the joy.

We are currently doing separation anxiety. My husband works overseas..Seamus copes with that...
but he is very attached to me and I am a volunteer emergency First Responder (ambulance officer) on call a couple of days per week so he has to be alone for a few hours now. Luckily my husband has been here up until today.

So I got him a crate as he is used to those. He broke the lock of where it was welded (cheap crate)...he chewed on his toy basket a little and pooed downstairs away from the main living area...(good manners)...I expected the poo as we didn't have time to take him out this morning due to the urgent call out. He did no other damage tho so I am going to try him with the crate open and things to chew he finds his own pieces of wood from the forest and brings them home ;)
we will see how he goes.

I read how to work him into the separation gently with little steps and I will try that too.

I have enjoyed reading the threads on here...personable stories and helpful comments. Lovely to get to know you.
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Re: new adult rehomed new parents

Postby JudeBl » Fri Jun 28, 2019 4:33 am

here we are 6/7 months down the track with the most beautiful dog in the world.

I don't know the difference between this particular individual and the inherent Whippet characteritsics but he is the most singularly minded. decidedly doesnt like coats unless absolutely freezing, LOVES the wild forest, hates town, noise and vacuums, LOVES when cars and people pass close by the boundary so he can "protect the territory" barking and grumbling. Hates when mum leaves home...loves cuddles and has insinuated himself onto the bed and abides by boundaries with a long po face

so affectionate and loyal, obedient , easy going and gentle

everything I would ever want in a companion...sighhhhhh
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