DAP Diffusers

DAP Diffusers

Postby chelynnah » Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:17 pm

In the time since the original thread was started in 2003 the DAP now also comes in spray and collar form. Each form has it's best type of use, and it's worth investigating what might work best for your situation. We have included all the information below from the original thread as much of it is still relevant, although most dog owners now have heard of DAP Diffusers.
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Re: DAP Diffusers

Postby chelynnah » Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:35 pm

From: chelynnah (Original Message) Sent: 09/06/2003 20:24
I was asked to start this as a new thread. I'm going to copy and paste several of my posts from the Whippet Lovers Board just so I don't forget anything - I hope that's okay with everyone, and that way you can also see the progression on how Chelsea has done since getting one of these.

Will start with the next post

Wendy


From: chelynnah Sent: 09/06/2003 20:29
Here is what I know only based on what is available in the UK, but I would assume it should be available in the States as well...

A DAP Diffuser is a plug in (like the glade plug ins - works on that same principal). DAP stands for Dog Appeasing Pheromone. It plugs into the wall and then disperses this pheromone into the air - it is supposed to calm dogs. It must be used for 2 weeks before and after the 'event'.

It costs £25 for the diffuser and first refill - then £15 for each refill after that. A refill lasts approx 4 weeks. I would assume that the cost would probably be about $30 US and $15 US based on the difference in pet products that I read for other things.

My breeders used it for their dogs last year during a particularly bad fireworks season. Their dogs (who are usually in a major panic for the whole 3 weeks) either ignored the fireworks or barked back at them. For them that was a MAJOR accomplishment.

I bought one recently because we have fireworks off and on during the summer, and becauase of Chelsea's fly phobia - I figure we'll keep it running from now till the end of November - so it will cost us a fair bit for six months, but it's worth my piece of mind. In your cases where you have set times for fireworks (ie 4th July) I would start it going about mid-June and keep it going till mid July - so one or two refills should be fine. Then if you know in advance of other occasions you can try it out.

A note - Rescue Remedy did help a fair bit of Chelsea's panic from fireworks and thunder storms. It calmed her enough that she allowed me to hold her during those times instead of her trying to dig through walls - now when we have storms she panics, but if I call her she will come to me for cuddles.

In November the fireworks her though can last for 3 weeks and I basically don't go anywhere for that period of time. If this diffuser works then it means we have the freedom to go out once or twice during that season.

Ask at your vets. I'm sure I've heard it disucussed on the US lists before. If you've any more questions I can send a scan of the written info for you to take to your vets.

Wendy


From: chelynnah Sent: 09/06/2003 20:31
Just did a google search and here are some US websites.....

The first two links are general info about it and the studies - the final two links are to a site that sells the kit and the refills

http://www.vpl.com/vpl_home/releases/dap_trade.htm

http://www.fearoffireworks.com/cd.php

This one sells the diffuser:
http://www.vetamerica.com/dapeldif48ml.html

This one sells the refills - same site as above - quite good prices
http://www.vetamerica.com/dapeldifref4.html

http://vetmedicine.about.com/library/we ... 10802a.htm

I also think someone said they ordered them from kvvet supplies.

Wendy


From: chelynnah Sent: 09/06/2003 20:32
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It's now been in about 3 weeks and today the dogs were outside chewing on some nice fresh knuckle bones and about a mile away there was target practice and gun shots.

Chelsea stopped chewing and went inside the house. She paced a bit, sat in the middle of the living room (the room where the diffuser is incidentally) and although she wouldn't settle, she wasn't panicking like she normally is.

As I'm typing this it's just happened again and she's come in, but just kind of sitting looking around, rather than digging/burrowing/freaking out.

I can only hope in time the effect gets even better - but even if it doesn't this is an AMAZING difference. Those of you with dogs terrified of fireworks and thunder will understand.

YAY - she's now curled up on the sofa!

So when the gunshots are going off she's not happy to be munching her bone, but she will stay relatively calm!!

Anyone else who's got one keep us updated in the next few weeks after it's been in a while.

Wendy


From: chelynnah Sent: 09/06/2003 20:34

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Fantastic results!! Chelsea slept through fireworks/gunfire stuff this week!!! (wasn't close, but did wake up Savannah and we heard it clearly - normally would have sent Chels into fits!!!). Also today she was chasing flies at Carol's (CAB on the list) house and I've told you all how terrified she is of flies!!

We've had it about 5 weeks or so now. YAY

Wendy


From: chelynnah Sent: 09/06/2003 20:36
Okay - posting in real time now LOL. This is a wonderful product. I think someone on the other board mentioned it might now be called 'comfort zone'. The links I provided earlier give some really great info on how it works.

I know it has worked fantastically for us - Chelsea is now chasing flies (she was terrified of buzzing things) and has slept through fireworks, or if not slept through then is less anxious than before.

It only covers a certain square foot area so you may need to buy two - one upstairs and one downstairs depending on your setup.

I can't think of anything else, but please ask:)

Wendy


From: WhipPetLisa Sent: 09/06/2003 21:18
Interesting Wendy. I have heard of these but never knew anyone who used them. Casino isn't afraid of anything. He did do some damage when he was left home along earlier, but he is pretty good now. I don't if it was SA or if he just enjoyed eating the woodwork.

I have never heard of a dog being terrified of buzzing things...I wonder what caused that.

Lisa


From: chelynnah Sent: 09/06/2003 22:40
Um, well, uh - I caused it. (Actually Chelsea's not the only one afraid of buzzing bugs - the reason the diffuser came up on the other board was because someone mentioned their whippet was silly over buzzing flies).

Anyway, a huge big buzzing bee was out in my in-laws back garden and Chelsea went to snap at it. I screamed NO!!! at her and must have freaked her out because ever since then she's been terrified of buzzing bugs. The quiet ones she'll still go for, but flies and buzzing bees she acts so silly over. If she thinks there's on in the house she'll sit with her head down looking up out of the corner of her eye trying to see it (almost as if she's trying to catch it stalking her!).

Anyway, the DAP fixed that (thank goodness - silly dog), and is doing well for the fireworks. I don't care how much it costs to keep it refilled - it's worth it for her and my piece of mind!

Wendy


From: HaleyWhippet Sent: 10/06/2003 15:19
Found this at http://www.kvvet.com

Comfort Zone - 48 ml
Canine Behavior Modification Plug-In with D.A.P.

Comfort Zone relieves stress in cats and dogs by simulating naturally occurring pheromones that calm and reassure them in stressful situations. D.A.P. (Dog Appeasing Pheromone) mimics a natural reassuring pheromone produced by female dogs when nursing. Reduces or completely stops stress-related behavior including: barking, whimpering, chewing, urination, defecation and separation anxiety in dogs. Whereas Feliway mimics a natural comforting facial pheromone produced by cats. Reduces or completely stops stress-related behavior including: urine marking, vertical scratching, loss of appetite and adjusting to a new environment. Does not affect humans or other pets. Plug unit into electric socket. Vial lasts approximately 4 weeks. Covers 500 to 600 square foot.

Product Number: 41256
$25.95


From: giddydane Sent: 10/06/2003 23:02
Ive only had mine for about 2 weeks but I can already tell the difference. Mazie has panic attacks when she is is left in her crate. Now she gets a little upset but dosnt spaz out. I am hoping the longer I use it the better it will get. I recomend it for sure!
Nicole
Crazy Mazie
Giddy Dane


From: skeezix123 Sent: 11/06/2003 01:56
Humm, I must be weird but I have never had thes kinds of problems with any of my dogs. Maybe it's because I'm around all of the time.

V, beau, skeezix and soon to be buster


From: HaleyWhippet Sent: 11/06/2003 02:05
Haley never freaks out either, But She dosen't like big trucks when we are on the highway. Guess that won't help us ...lol
Deb


From: Terje Sent: 11/06/2003 12:16
I wonder if this will work on the destructiveness rthat many whippet puppies have until they calm down around one year of age... although I doubt it. A breeder friend of mine once said, that many more would have whippets if they came as one-yesr-olds... it seems many people give up during the puppy period, as they haven't been properly informed of or even realize the similarities between whippet puppies and squirrells (monkeys and tornadoes have also been mentioned...) -mostly when left alone for even short times. Anyone got any comment on the DAP diffusers in this context?

Terje


From: becca Sent: 11/06/2003 13:15
I saw these diffusers in one of my catalogs, then saw it at my vets. I asked him, what he thought, and he said it works for some dogs and not for others- just like everything else!! I am curious to know, because I am planning to open a grooming/daycare business and wanted to try them to calm the dogs.
Becca and Louise


From: chelynnah Sent: 11/06/2003 15:04
"I wonder if this will work on the destructiveness rthat many whippet puppies have until they calm down around one year of age"

Terje - it does make adjustment easier for pups (ie if you have it plugged in for a couple of weeks before pup arrives) and the literature does say it calms them, so if destructiveness is because they're bored, it just might work.

Have a read through the articles on the links I posted up higher.

Wendy


From: waterwhippets Sent: 11/06/2003 15:22
Terje, If they have separation anxiety, that’s one thing, but in your post, I hear you addressing normal puppy behavior which is made worse when they get bored (which they do, easily!) Are you suggesting the use of a DAP diffuser as some sort of sedative for normally active puppies?

Sat Ananda, Whippet Rescue of Charlotte


From: Terje Sent: 11/06/2003 16:53
I'm not suggesting it as a sedative, which I don't believe it works as anyway. The fact, however, is that many (not all) whippet puppies, have sooo much more "normal puppy behaviour" than most other breeds... I'm just spinning a thought and wondering if, since DAP is mimicing the calming pheromones coming from the nursing mother, if this would in any way affect their behaviour. (in a way their owners would appreciate). I was in fact asking for more information, as I haven't tried it and have only recently heard of it's existence.

Not all whippet pups who wreck their environment have SA, they just have vast amounts of energy, and tons of things they want to do/chew/taste. I know some won't agree with me that whippet pups differ from other breeds in this respect, but... well, it's my opinion.

I may try this product soon, as my one-year-old borzoi boy Charlie has gotten the idea that he now has to mark his territory and all new places (not all of them outdoors...) It should supposedly help here, too. I don't know if it's available here, will have to check.

Take care,
Terje


From: chelynnah Sent: 11/06/2003 17:49
Have a look at this link http://www.fearoffireworks.com/cd.php

As for ordering where you are, just do a google search for DAP diffuser and tons comes up.

Wendy


From: chelynnah Sent: 06/09/2003 19:26
Here is an update on how Chelsea is doing with the DAP diffuser - I posted it in response to a thread on another board.
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Couple of things to remember - it takes a couple of weeks for the environment to become 'saturated' enough with it for it to have an effect, and even though there is still liquid in it at the end of 4 weeks it still needs to be replaced. I made this mistake and in that final couple of weeks (I stretched it to 5 or 6 weeks because there was still liquid in it) Chelsea started to 'worry' again. I now change it once a month on the same day and mark it on the calender.

Another thing to remember - it doesn't always work, but definitely worth a shot. It has decreased Chelsea's panic 95%. She is fine for fireworks and most storms and gunshots (from the army firing range). In a BAD thunderstorm I have to 'top her up' with Rescue Remedy or Valerian. But I can handle that.

She used to panic, shake and almost froth. She refused to be held, wouldn't let me bribe her with food, and would often try to dig her way out of the house. Now when she hears the noises that scare her, she no longer shakes, no longer tries to dig her way out, and what she does now is immediately come to me and cuddle in. She also now listens to the window (where she hears the noises coming from) with her ears pricked - so she now feels safe, and is starting to be interested in the sounds that 'worry' her rather than 'terrify' her.

Wendy


From: beegdoggys Sent: 06/09/2003 19:41
Well that sounds like a real improvement Wendy!

I am really happy for you both.

Monica b


From: KarenzK9z Sent: 07/09/2003 02:15
Does anyone know where I can get one? I'm wondering if it'll make Grace less stressed out about our move. She ALWAYS poops on the carpet any time she goes somewhere, and she did today while we were starting the move. And I'd LOVE to be able to leave her in a crate for a few hours without coming home to a pile of poop and a Whippet who's been laying in it. Sheesh.
Thanks,
Karen


From: chelynnah Sent: 07/09/2003 10:18
Karen it would definitely help with that. Your vet should have them, but I know that people have ordered them of KVVet - try a google search under either DAP or Comfort Zone (I think it's now being marketed over there under Comfort Zone).

Also, when you finally move into your new place, if you are able to get one plugged in over there (difficult I know) before you move in it might help as well.

Wendy
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